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Steven Parker

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I know this is not about boats, but due to the high price off gas, I am considering purchasing a Honda Silverwing, or similar "scooter" type cycle. Does anyone own one, and if so, what do you think of it? Any other suggestions from the "cycle" world? I haven't owned a motorcycle in 20 years and don't know that much about them.



Thanks
 
Cons

Cold ride in the winter. Insurance? Getting hit by a SUV no fun. Chicks dig Harleys, hard to find a place for a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.

Pros

Go forever on a tank of gas, won't take up much space, fun to drive, small enough they won't have to unwrap your body from the wreckage and can bury you like chewing gum wrapped in the foil wrapper.

mmmmmh?

fatrap
 
Steve, it depends what you want to do with it. If you are going to ride back and forth to work it's not safe at all. Basically, it's a toy. If you want one to skip around on the weekends, it's fun. I have seen a lot other posts on other boards about this because of the gas situation. Remember, it's a TOY and your family will be able to buy a lot of gas with the insurance money they willl have.



Bill
 
Steve - with all due respect to Bill, I have to disagree about viewing motorcycles or even scooters as "toys." The term "toy" implies that these powerful machines are playthings that you do not need to take too seriously. IMHO, the exact opposite is true. Nor do I believe they are necessarily as dangerous as some may say. This is from the perspective of someone who has been riding (and commuting by) motorcycles for nearly ten years.



First off, motorcycles are serious machines, much like automobiles are serious machines. Same goes for the larger scooters like the Silverwing. In fact, with the advances in scooter technology, size and displacement, many scooters (including the Silverwing) are as powerful as the mid to large size motorcycles. Almost all of them, in fact, require a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license to operate. The smaller scooters (i.e., those generally around 50cc's or less that can only go up to 25mph) are more for around town errands and use. Since you seem to want to use the vehicle for commuting and other more serious motor vehicle needs, the rest of my comments refer to motorcycles and the scooters of larger size.



That all said, motorcycles and scooters can be excellent alternatives to automobiles. The key is in the attitude of the rider and the understanding of the limits of your two-wheeled transportation. First off, don't simply hop on one and assume you can ride. Riding a two-wheeled motorized vehicle requires a whole separate set of driving skills. I won't even pretend to start instructing on how to ride in an e-mail post. Best bet is to take a course like the state-endorsed Motorcycle Safety Foundation's (MSF's) Rider Training Course. If you don't already have a motorcycle endorsement on your license, many states will waive the road test portion of the motorcycle exam upon proof of successful competion of the MSF course. It also entitles you to a break on your insurance. Then again, since you used to ride, you probably already retain many of the skills. In that case, taking an MSF course would be a great way to refresh those rusty skills.



Second, given the practical nature of the use for your motorcycle or scooter, think carefully about what you want - although you probably know this, you likely aren't in the market for a cruiser (i.e., harley) or race replica (i.e., ninja). A Silverwing probably would serve you well. Another option is standard motorcycle like a Suzuki Bandit 600 or Yamaha FZ6. Just keep in mind, unless you invest in saddle bags, a top case or other luggage for the bike, that carrying space is limited.



But the cost is not just in the bike. As a former rider, your probably realize you'll need a good helmet, gloves, boots and other protective gear. When all is said and done, although your gas milage will improve significantly, just don't get a bike to save on gas money. The cost of the motorcycle/scooter, protective gear, training and additional insurance will probably eclipse any gas cost savings - at least for a few years! Then again, I have also found that commuting by motorcycle to be one of the few joys in an otherwise mundage daily task. Only you can weigh the pros and cons and decide.



Good luck - JC
 
You guys have it all wrong on the silverwing. The silverwing is much more like a real motorcycle then it is a little scooter. It has a 600cc motor and weighs in at over 500#. its not an 80cc toy by any means. The big things that make it different from a standard motorcycle are the seating position( you sit more in it then on it and the motor is under your butt not between your legs. I have ridden one(a guy at work has one) and then ride pretty nice but it wouldnt be my first choice on two wheels.



That being said if i was looking to get something like that i would opt for a "real" motorcycle. for a number of reasons. For one the larger tires on a normal bike will ride better. A normal bike will handle MUCH better and be a safer overall ride( safe being sort of an oxymoron on a bike). A normal bike will also stop better with its larger brakes and better weight distrubition. You can also get onto something like a harley 882 sportster for under 7k. or a Honda shadow VLX for under 6. Or a Kawasaki vulcan 750 for under 5k. Those are all cruser style. If you wanted somethign more sporty an Suzuki sv650 comes in under 6k. All of these bikes will get good milage if ridden easily. My old Honda vf1100s got over 45 freeway and my buddy's Harley softail with a 1340cc motor gets over 50.



I would also think a normal motorcycle would be easier to sell should you need or want to.



Thats just my .02



btw if i was buying a bike today it would be a BMW R1150 RT. Its a nice Dual Sport bike with a comfortable riding position that will whip a crotch rocket in he turns :)
 
Just remember if you ride in traffic or commute.........



There ain't no such thing as a "fender bender" on a bike......



Ride like everybody's out to kill you.....cause they are........



and expect the unexpected...ALWAYS!!!



Those rules have always kept me safe.



TOXIC
 
I've been riding bikes since I was 12 yearas old and at 55 they are still my choice of transportation. They are safe if you pay attention and learn the proper skills. The Silverwing although not my choice will perform fine for riding to work, on the freeways or putting around the neighborhood. I totalled my bike a few months ago (SUV turned in front of me)and the cancer was discovered so I have not replaced it yet. As soon as I beat this cancer down I will have a new one to travel to work or around the ountry.

I will reccomend that you take a MSF course befoe you buy though.

JDJ
 
As a "Silverwing" is not a Harley, I had no idea what it was. I was thinking Vespa, etc. and I still say, compared to a real bike, they are a toy. I don't know where any of you live but if you want to commute back and forth on U.S. route 50 from say, Wash., D.C. to Annapolis, MD every day, you'd be an *****. Little teeny tires, automatic trans, no power, no crash bars, etc..

Cruise around the neighborhood and they's be fine. Cruise back and forth to work and give me your name and statistics so I can get some insurance on you. That's one lottery I'll win.

BTW, I have been riding since I was 15 years old.



Bill
 
Bill, do a search for on the Silverwing specs and you will see that it has plenty of power and handling for cummuting traffic.

Personally I wouldn't commute in the DC area in a sherman tank but I will commute on my bike anywhere that I would drive my truck. My bike has always been my main mode of transport unless I had to haul something or someone I could not figure out how to get on the bike or if I had to wear a monkey suit to work.

Love my bike and it is probably what I miss the most that this cancer has taken away from me. I'm looking for an old beater bike that is cheap but reliable to ride now on days I feel up to it. I don't want to go put a lot of money out and then have it sitting in the garage most of the time like the boat.

 
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