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This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Michigan

Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan. This guy's response

is hilarious, but read the State's letter before you get to the response

letter.











SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County



Dear Mr. DeVries:



It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that

there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel

of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or

contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:



Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet

stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this

type of activity. A review of the Department's files shows that no permits

have been issued.



Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation

of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and

Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being

sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.



The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially

failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream

locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and

cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist

all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow

condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream

channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31,

2003.



Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a

follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply

with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may

result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We

anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please

feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.



Sincerely, David L. Price District Representative Land and Water Management

Division



** This is the actual response sent back: **



Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County.



Dear Mr. Price,



Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond to. I

am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson,

Michigan. A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of

constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream

of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their

dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their

skillful use of natures building materials "debris." I would like to

challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time

and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way

you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam

ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam

work ethic. As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that

they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam

activity. My first dam question to you is:



(1) Are you trying discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or

(2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam

request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers,

through the Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all

those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we

will see if there
 
Hate to say it Pama, but at this point and time and the way I feel about the DNR & Eviromental Quality is not funny.

I just sent an e-mail to the DNR in Ohio about CJ Brown Resivoir. There has been an e-coli problem there for the last 3 or 4 years. The last couple of years I have noticed that the walleye taste "Funny". Kinda' like some old moss or a kinda' soapy taste(hard to describe).

Well the reply I got was about as informative as the answer that guy got. Of course I understand these are different circumstances.

They told me they were preforming "extensive" surveys of the Mad River and Buck Creek running into and out of the lake and those results would not be availible until 2005!

He said that sampling the fish from the lake is very expensive and that could not randomly check all the waters.They only sample "running water".

Now this is NOT random....I know numerous people here that have said the same thing about the fish. There IS a problem and I told the DNR,"Me and my family could be dead or seriously contaminated from the fish before the state would ever get the survey done"! I guess the next route is "Park Management" or EPA to find out what is going on. I have quit eating the fish out of that lake temporarily.

I just think that the answer he gave was not informative and when I replied with information about an e-coli test that was done on 7/3 was....1200 e-coli bacteria per 100 ml. of water sampled...NOW THAT'S HIGH!

He has not replied yet.

Stay tuned....I'm gonna' find out what's goin' on!

TEE



BTW...the story IS funny!

 
TEE,



That is a health and public safety issue and you are right in persuing it. The big question is WHERE is the contamination coming from. If they don't respond, there's always the media. That usually gets some attention (outdoor writers or TV news).



TOXIC
 
You bet I'm mad Tox...DNR said I need to get ahold of Park Management? I have not found the right avenue yet but, I'm workin' it. What's really sad is this is a phenominal lake for walleye and is only 10 minutes from my door. I haven't been back since....what fun is it to catch and release ALL of your walleyes because you can't eat em':(

TEE
 
That and think of all of the poor saps that are eating them and don't know the difference or the danger. E-Coli is nothing to mess with. Especially the very young, old or those with compromised immune systems.........hey waite a minute, that just about covers everybody on this board....Anyway, some of the best river smallie fishing on the east coast here in VA is "restricted" consumption because of PCB's. The smallie population has overgrown and stunted but the real shame is that there are HUGE Bream, Pumpkinseeds and Catfish that can't be harvested.



TOXIC
 
Guess I'll have to rename the fish there to "Poop Sharks"!

TEE
 
Pama,

It's a dam shame that the DNR can't tell the difference between a beaver dam and trash build-up. Makes you wonder?

Tom
 
Good point Tom...If these are some examples of what they do & can't do...I don't carry much confidence in them.

BTW...Ya' know what ya' get when ya' get two Tom's on the same site...that's right.......TNT!

TEE
 

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