Go back with two lures - small lizards and the tubes you mentioned. I prefer watermelonseed or green pumpkin for the lizards (watermelonseed in clear water, green pumpkin in the stained). Get the lizard in front of them and kill it. Forever. If they move off, just let it sit. If they come up to it and nose it, but won't bite - pop it hard. If you can, hit 'em in the jaw with it. When they swim off, let it sit there again. When they come back, hang on because they're just going to come through like a torpedo and nail it. On the tubes - same thing. Throw it in there and let it sit. Favorite colors on the tubes are watermelonseed, green pumpkin.... and this time of year - Zoom's "camo" color or orange / green pumpkin laminate (the later of which is my favorite). When the fish just keep looking at it forever and don't bite, pop it. When they swim off, reel in really quickly and wait. When you see the fish come back, put a chunk of alka-seltzer in the tube body and throw it back to them. They will hit it. Just be patient. And if they don't..... then maybe they are the Carp that TOXIC mentioned. LMAO!!!