Old actors vs new actors

[fatrap]

Most of you probably have seen this one but I thought I'd pass it on since we've been trashing (rightfully in most cases) the hollywood big mouths talking down the country.



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A Letter to the Editor,



The Entertainers of 2003 have been in all of the news

media lately. it seems News Paper, Television and

Radio has been more than ready to put them and their

message before the public.



I would like to remind the people of what the

entertainers of 1943 were doing, (60 years ago). Most

of these brave men have since passed on.



Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal

Navy landing craft on D-Day.

James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in

Normandy with the U.S. Army on D-Day.

Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was a

R.A.F. pilot who was shot down, held prisoner and

tortured by the Germans.

David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel

of the British Commandos in Normandy.

James Stewart flew 20 missions as a B-24 pilot in

Europe.

Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) was a

waist gunner flying missions on a B-17 in Europe.



Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in

Kodiak.



Earnest Borgnine was a U.S. Navy Gunners Mate

1935-1945.



Charles Durning was a U.S. Army Ranger at Normandy.



Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air

Corps.

George C. Scott was a U.S. Marine.



Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze

Star for his heroic action as a U.S. Naval officer

aiding Marines at the horrific battle on the island of

Tarawa in the Pacific Nov.1943.



Brian Keith served as a Marine rear gunner in several

actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.



Lee Marvin was a marine on Saipan when he was wounded.

John Russell was a Marine on Guadalcanal.



Robert Ryan was a U.S. Marine who served with the

O.S.S. in Yugoslavia.



Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl

Harbor was bombed) joined the Marines, was a pilot

flying supplies into, and wounded Marines out of Iwo

Jima and Okinawa.



Audie Murphy , little guy from Texas, Most Decorated

serviceman of WWII.



I wish I had room to tell you more about Actor

Sterling Hayden and an actor by the name of Peter J.

Ortiz (Twelve O'clock High, Rio Grande and The Wings

of Eagles), but this would turn into a book.



There is quite a huge gap between the heroics and

patriotism in 1943 and the cowardly despicable

posturing of the Hollywood crowd of today...all of

which smack of sedition and treason.



Think about this every time you are tempted to go to

the movies or go to a concert!

 

[James D.]

super post fatrap! i agree.



jd

 

[Jr. Dunn]

That is very interesting.

The only thing that comes to mind is if some of the celeb's today were to spout there crap back in those days, they would have been scorned by EVERYONE! Those today are speaking to a much more "liberal" audience (I have better words for that than liberal but I better not say). I definitely blame the ignorant celeb's but it is a sorry deal when there are people out there that actually believe in what they do say!

Never the less, great post!

 

[Rich Stern]

Um, would I be spoiling the parade if I mentioned that quite a few of those folks were draft? And many that weren't drafted signed up on December 8th, 1941, along with a lot of other young Americans.



Different times yield different types of people, and those differences are not limited to the ranks of Hollywood actors.

 

[fatrap]

I found the post interesting when it was sent to me. I belive it was from an old buddy who is now retired from Uncle Sams Misguided Children.(term of deep affection used by the Navy for Marines). I tried to find current additions to the list but have come up short. Anyone have any?

fatrap

 

[Larry Harp]

I'll always remember a story I heard about Lee Marvin. While on a promo tour for a movie he stopped in Tokyo. The reporters all asked him if he had any comment regarding his arrival in Japan. Lee with a straight face says,"Remember Pearl Harbor".

This was obviously before P.C.



Harpo

 

[Staci Matheis]

My father was a navigator on a B-24..... Shot down on his 5th mission and spent 2 years in a POW camp..... I only heard him talk about it twice in my life.....



Once when he took me to Wright-Patterson AFB and the Air Force Meuseum when I was about 10. He saw memorabilia there from the camp he was in and recognized men in the photographs.....



Then, when I was in High School, we were at breakfast with one of my teachers who had been in the RAF and also a POW. The two of them traded recollections of what they ahd experienced. As I recall, althought the time they spent was not pleasant, it was not harsh treatemnt either and followed the Geneva Convention.



What was the title of Tom Brokaw's book? Something about the "Bravest Generation"?



me!

 

[Rich Stern]

Thad, let's make sure we get the facts straight: The U.S. drafted more than 10,000,000 men during World War Two. I don't doubt there are many volunteers in the above list, but there were a few "invitees," too.



Next: "Privilege of fame." I work for a living, and I consider the fruits of my labor not to be privilege, but earnings. I extend the same perpsective to the tiny percentage of actors who work hard enough and have enough talent to become famous. They earn their fame, regardless of whether we like their work or their politics.



Finally: It would be far more damaging to our nation if those actors, or any other American, couldn't voice their agendas.



World War Two was a very different conflict, both in scale and politics.

 

[Staci Matheis]

"World War Two was a very different conflict, both in scale and politics."



Boy! Isn't that the truth........



me!

(Age 19 during the first Vietnam era draft.)

 

[Gerry Gerry]

I just read (on my own newspaper)about the post Sept 11, actions of our heroic actors. No what a minute, no story there. Dec 1941 cuased a lot of angry red bloods to take up arms and try to contribute to the positive image of a united states. Today our bright and beautiful unite with themselves just to divide political lines. Who in their american mind could not stand behind the right and necessity to defend ourselves against a religious sect bent on killin all who play in their game. Make no mistake about this issue, clling yourself a Democrat, is to stay you are anti Republican at any cost, even at the cost of your own patriotism. I thought Martin Sheen was a real upright person, until he tried to support our troops and oppose war. How stupid do they think we are.

 

[Rich Stern]

Thad, a few more words and then I'll lay off the politics, too.



Regardless of which way you lean politically, realize that both ends of the political spectrum perceive ill from the words of those who most pointedly represent opposite political thinking.



The most dominate voice on talk radio? Rush Limbaugh (Rush is a celebrity, too). The most prominent voice in a poltical activist group? Until just recently, Charlton Heston for the NRA. Last time I checked, Dennis Miller was speaking fairly strong pro-conservative verbiage. Bill Mahr, too.



Conservative or liberal, it's part of what separates the U.S. from the rest of the world. More important than a strong military or a good economy (we had neither when our country got started) is the loud voice of a dissenting opinion, spoken without fear of imprisonment, torture or reprisal.



In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a moderate libertarian.