Last year, our first with the boat, I took my youngest daughter(13) and youngest son(7), (my fishin' buds) to a local lake, she's the official rope holder, and walks alongside the boat and ties up to the dock when the boat floats off the trailer while I hurry and park, the little guy just looks around for stuff to get into and explore while we launch/load.... so we went, and launched no problem, but when time came to load up, her job is to wave to me if I get trailer wheels too close to the edge of the ramp, (it's shallow and you have to back in pretty far) there's a sign on the dock that says ramp ends here, so she stops me just before it and it's still real shallow and sometimes tough to load up, so sure enough she does HER job, but me? Naw, I think I'll squeeze another couple inches out of it, BANG, trailer wheels plop right off the ramp, so anyway it's myself, 2 shore fishermen that just happened to be nearby, and another guy that had just loaded up and saw what happened, to get it lifted back onto the ramp......... while another good samaritan jumps in and slowly creeps the van forward until the wheels are back on the ramp.....after thanking everyone, and stopping the little guy from crying, (he thought we were gonna lose the boat, trailer and van to the lake) and reassuring my daughter it wasn't her fault, we loaded up, went to pull out, and all the while there was some park ranger or something standing there watching the whole thing, grinnin', he said it happens at least a couple times a week.... the whole thing took maybe 5 minutes tops, thanks to those that helped out, but it felt like hours, and on a cool breezy day, when we left I was drenched with sweat and red as a beet..... egMike