Sorry man, I just read it. I have not been out. My last pattern was flats next to deep water in the rivers. This pattern will hold till they move shallow to feed up for the winter.
i know im to late to, but i tore them up fishing the outside grass edge a(about 4 feet from them, using a wacky worm and a jig. caught many fish and broke 3 off in the 8 lb range. maybe next time i will use heavy line.