Greg, need some help (Not Computer)

[Gilbert Scales2]

Greg, a friend of mine gave me a new in box Ruger 77/17 Stainless All weather rifle today. What do I have here??? Is it a 17HMR, or I am told they have 2 different calibers. Is this true, about the two caliber thing?? I have the book, but wanted some knowledge about this firearm before I got into it much. This young man hunts some property we own, and is very grateful I let him hunt there. He told me he had it for a year and never shot it, didn't even purchase ammo for it. Help me out here, I am big on handguns, shotguns, rifle experience limited.



Bubby

 

[Greg Meyer]

Should be a .17HRM. Nothing marked on the rifle? If it has the detachable rotary box magazine it is a .17HRM (rimfire)



Afterthought.... check out www.predatormasters.com Should have some good info on the rifle and the round.



There was a pretty herated discussion about the Remington Semi Auto .17 and a safety recall. But, no known (to me) issues with any of the bolt guns...

 

[Scott R]

Ruger 77/17 is chambered in .17HMR. It should be marked on the barrel or the action somewhere. Nice rifle. The link below gives the specs on the rifle.



There are 2 other Ruger 77 models; the 77/22 (chambered in .22LR, .22 Magnum, and .22 Hornet) and the 77/44 (chambered in .44 Magnum)
http://www.ruger.com/products/rotaryMagazine7717/models.html

 

[Justin Sessink]

The two calibers are .17HMR (your rifle) as stated above and .17 Mach 2... I don't believe Ruger ever made a 77/17 that shoots the Mach 2's? I have a 77/17 as well and I am sure you will be VERY pleased with it! Word of advice, buy the Hornady ammo... I have tried every available ammo and the best results came from Hornady!



-Justin

 

[Greg Meyer]

Knot,



Interesting comment about the ammo... Because, when Remington recalled their semi-auto 597 they related information about ammo. Seems that it is all the same. All loaded by the same manufacturer...

 

[Justin Sessink]

Greg,



Correct but I do believe they use different bullets... Same powder, same grain, same casing but different ballistic tip. The Federal ammo was second best which was strictly a hollow point, the Remington ammo looked to have the same bullet other than the green tip (not red) but with the Hornady ammo @ 50yds I am within 3/8" out of 5 shots and with the Remington I am closer to 3/4". Then @ 100yds I am within 7/8" with Hornady and over 1 1/2" with Remington... I know I know lots of variables but I was just relaying my results.



-Justin

 

[fatrap]

I put a BSA Sweet 17 on it and shoot away. It's a great rifle.

fatrap

 

[Gilbert Scales2]

Thanks everyone!! On the barrel is marked 17 M2. I will try to read the book tonight. Just been busy... not with work... things around the house.



Bubby

 

[Justin Sessink]

So they did make it in a Mach 2... Let us know how you like it!



-Justin

 

[Gilbert Scales2]

Justin, quick question.... is is different ammo than the 17 HMR?????



Bubby

 

[Justin Sessink]

Yes, here are links for reference...



17 HMR - http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_40603____SearchResults



17 Mach 2 - http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_67678____SearchResults



-Justin

 

[TritonGlenn]

17 HMR is based off of a necked down 22 Mag case.

17 M2 is based off of a necked down 22LR case.



The difference between the two in performance and pressure is much like the difference between the .22 Mag and .22LR.



A little suprising that you have a .17 M2 in that model. Ruger does not list one currently:

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotaryMagazine7717/models.html



But I did find one on "Collectors Firearms" here:

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=31374



You might have a very limited production rifle. Might be worth more in the future. You just never know. Sold for a pretty good chunk of change originally too.



Very nice looking firearm! I hope you enjoy it!



All the best,

Glenn

 

[TritonGlenn]

I just realized - We never answered your question directly. Sorry about that.



Yes, 17M2 is a different ammo than the 17HMR. The two are not interchangable.



All the best,

Glenn