TROY WAINRIGHT3
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Everytime i buy something from bps its broke already or within a week.Has anyone else noticed that most if not all xps gear is from overseas?
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Marty Klein
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I've not noticed that nor have I had the problems you discuss. All my BPS stuff works well and lasts a long time [only problem I have is when I break it off it doesn't come to the boat when called].
The only problem with equipment that I've had is two Ray Scott rods have broken during normal use--one rod broke in half casting a weightless Chomper twin-tail grub. That is the last time I will buy a high dollar non-Bass Pro Shop rod.
The only problem with equipment that I've had is two Ray Scott rods have broken during normal use--one rod broke in half casting a weightless Chomper twin-tail grub. That is the last time I will buy a high dollar non-Bass Pro Shop rod.
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Did they replace that one Jason?
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Troy, I have never had the problems with BPS that you have. I own 12 Extreme reels, 1 Pro Qualifier reel, 6 Extreme rods, 2 Crankin' Sticks, 1 Tourney Special, 1 Bionic Blade and 1 Micro Lite rod. I also own 2 old All Stars along with several old Ryobi and Quantum reels that are used as spares. As far as longevity, I've had my BPS stuff for years and use it a lot. I keep up with my maintenance schedule and keep everything clean.
One Crankin' Stick was delivered broken. BPS replaced it, sending out the replacement rod before I returned the damaged rod to them. One Extreme Reel had to be replaced because the cover plate would not go back on after I set the brakes. BPS replaced it, no questions asked. I have nothing but good things to say about BPS, their products or their coustomer service. I know that others have said that they have had problems with BPS.
Like you, I have noticed that most of, if not all of BPS's products are made over seas. I have also noted that most quality rods, reels, etc are made overseas. I wish that it wasn't that way, but I guess that's just the way it is.
Steve
One Crankin' Stick was delivered broken. BPS replaced it, sending out the replacement rod before I returned the damaged rod to them. One Extreme Reel had to be replaced because the cover plate would not go back on after I set the brakes. BPS replaced it, no questions asked. I have nothing but good things to say about BPS, their products or their coustomer service. I know that others have said that they have had problems with BPS.
Like you, I have noticed that most of, if not all of BPS's products are made over seas. I have also noted that most quality rods, reels, etc are made overseas. I wish that it wasn't that way, but I guess that's just the way it is.
Steve
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If it's that new, you shouldn't have any problems at all.
Good luck,
Steve
Good luck,
Steve
Bill McElroy
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Troy,
VERY little tackle of any kind is made here anymore,......I'd venture to guess that 80% or more of ALL rods, reels and baits sold in the US are imported from overseas....not just XPS.
VERY little tackle of any kind is made here anymore,......I'd venture to guess that 80% or more of ALL rods, reels and baits sold in the US are imported from overseas....not just XPS.
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I agree with Mac, and would even venture to bump that percentage number higher. Most of the rods and reels I have owned have been made in either Japan, China, Korea, etc....
With rods - I know people absolutely hate hearing this - but if it doesn't break within the first couple of good uses (decent sized fish, fighting well), then most (not all) breakage that occurs at a later date is probably due to the owner. Weak spots on a rod blank, or an overtight wrap on a guide up near the tip are usually the culprit when it comes to manufacturers defects, and those normally rear their ugly heads pretty quickly within the first couple of uses. You could absolutely swear that you didn't do anything to cause the breakage, but if you think back REALLY hard, you can probably come up with a recent occurance of dropping it, hitting it on the trolling motor, bouncing it around in the rod locker during some rough water ride, etc.... Some people expect rods to last forever, and I've never understood that. It's a tool of the trade, and it's prone to failure the minute you remove it from the wrapper. I had a Daiwa tournament series rod that I paid a couple hundred dollars for quite a few years ago. That was one tough rod, but when it broke after several years of use, I knew it was something I had done - not a manufacturers defect, even though I couldn't recall anything I would have done to harm it (probably bouncing around in my rod locker though).
I believe the XPS equipment is very good quality, and I'd buy most anything with the XPS logo on it and feel confident of it's quality - but like Steve Hutson, I keep up with my maintenance. Even with hard use, I get my "moneys worth" out of most everything I own, or have owned.
Now BPS shipping may be the culprit on some of that. I've been with a few rod / reel companies in the past 12 years, and have received broken rods from all of them at one point in time, which they always replaced regardless. It may not be BPS's fault though - UPS is pretty hard on boxes. :lol: I think the only way to gaurantee a rod shows up unbroken would be to wrap with bubble wrap, insert in a piece of PVC pipe for shipping, and anchor the butt end in the PVC end cap so the tip section stays away from the upper cap. I've shipped / received rods like this before, and have never had one break. The down side.... shipping costs.
All the best,
Glenn
With rods - I know people absolutely hate hearing this - but if it doesn't break within the first couple of good uses (decent sized fish, fighting well), then most (not all) breakage that occurs at a later date is probably due to the owner. Weak spots on a rod blank, or an overtight wrap on a guide up near the tip are usually the culprit when it comes to manufacturers defects, and those normally rear their ugly heads pretty quickly within the first couple of uses. You could absolutely swear that you didn't do anything to cause the breakage, but if you think back REALLY hard, you can probably come up with a recent occurance of dropping it, hitting it on the trolling motor, bouncing it around in the rod locker during some rough water ride, etc.... Some people expect rods to last forever, and I've never understood that. It's a tool of the trade, and it's prone to failure the minute you remove it from the wrapper. I had a Daiwa tournament series rod that I paid a couple hundred dollars for quite a few years ago. That was one tough rod, but when it broke after several years of use, I knew it was something I had done - not a manufacturers defect, even though I couldn't recall anything I would have done to harm it (probably bouncing around in my rod locker though).
I believe the XPS equipment is very good quality, and I'd buy most anything with the XPS logo on it and feel confident of it's quality - but like Steve Hutson, I keep up with my maintenance. Even with hard use, I get my "moneys worth" out of most everything I own, or have owned.
Now BPS shipping may be the culprit on some of that. I've been with a few rod / reel companies in the past 12 years, and have received broken rods from all of them at one point in time, which they always replaced regardless. It may not be BPS's fault though - UPS is pretty hard on boxes. :lol: I think the only way to gaurantee a rod shows up unbroken would be to wrap with bubble wrap, insert in a piece of PVC pipe for shipping, and anchor the butt end in the PVC end cap so the tip section stays away from the upper cap. I've shipped / received rods like this before, and have never had one break. The down side.... shipping costs.
All the best,
Glenn
Well said Glenn.....
Also remember that EVERYTIME you step on a rod, smack it against something, bend the tip past 90 degrees to the handle, etc.....you are imparting stresses on the blank that they are not intended to handle. The rod might not break when the stress occurs, but it will break eventually. Once the integrity of the fibers are broken, the rod will break right there. I saw it all the time when I was with All Star, but we kept on replacing them or "upgrading" customers for a minimal cost. Keeps the customers happy and they kept buying rods....
Too bad alot of rod companies are getting away from the lifetime warranties, but consumers still expect them to last forever. The only way to make a rod/reel/lure/boat, etc last forever is to not use it.
With all that said, yes....I love my XPS rods/reels/line/baits. Not because I am sponsored by BPS, but because the stuff works and is a great value to consumers. I use it and so do ALOT of people in the industry.
Bet you didnt know that BPS and Shimano rods are made at the same factory.....
Mini
Also remember that EVERYTIME you step on a rod, smack it against something, bend the tip past 90 degrees to the handle, etc.....you are imparting stresses on the blank that they are not intended to handle. The rod might not break when the stress occurs, but it will break eventually. Once the integrity of the fibers are broken, the rod will break right there. I saw it all the time when I was with All Star, but we kept on replacing them or "upgrading" customers for a minimal cost. Keeps the customers happy and they kept buying rods....
Too bad alot of rod companies are getting away from the lifetime warranties, but consumers still expect them to last forever. The only way to make a rod/reel/lure/boat, etc last forever is to not use it.
With all that said, yes....I love my XPS rods/reels/line/baits. Not because I am sponsored by BPS, but because the stuff works and is a great value to consumers. I use it and so do ALOT of people in the industry.
Bet you didnt know that BPS and Shimano rods are made at the same factory.....
Mini
Bill McElroy
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...and BPS no longer "sources" their reels out to other mfgr's...they have their OWN mfg facility in Korea and all of the BPS reels are made there...they have much better handle on quality control that way!
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BPS is over-rated.....shop at KD Outdoors!!! 
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I use all BPS rod/reel combos. The only one I've had problems with is the Pro Qualifier I took it back and they swaped it out for another Pro Qualifier, well after two months that one went bad also. I took that one back with no receipt and they swapped it for a Rick Clunn combo. I'll obviously never buy another Pro Qualifier, but I'll continue using the other combos they offer. And you can't beat their customer service. If it's BPS they'll almost always let you swap, even with no receipt.
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